@Beeswax business People like you always make me laugh. You start out immediately like "100%" this or that. You try to take everything to extreme limits to try and create a point. Who at any point said the filter doesn't get used for racist purposes? Nobody ever made that claim, but by not having it does that cause that same person to suddenly not be racist? Not at all.. the only thing it does is force them to see you, who they don't want to see. That's like saying if you go to look at gay porn you're forced to see straight porn. Seeing women's vaginas everywhere when you have absolutely no want to see it. Does that suddenly make you attracted to women? Not at all.. if anything, it'll make you even more disgusted by it.

You also try to act like the majority of people that utilize an ethnicity filter do it for racist purposes. You also even try to say how if someone excludes everyone but their race suddenly that's acceptable?? What exactly is your definition of racist? Because it definitely doesn't fit the actual definition. Again, this is something people like you constantly do though. You're against it, but for it, but against it, and you keep flipping between them as you deem fit.

As for your bit about saying we exclude because of prejudices, who again at any point ever said or even barely mentioned that? I'm not sexually attracted to black guys. Does that suddenly mean I'm racist against them? Not at all. I can talk to them, I can interact with them, I can be around them, etc. I have quite a few as friends as well. The same thing applies again to women. Just because I'm gay, does that mean I'm sexist and can't be around women? Not at all.

Like I said, you can keep trying to take things to extremes to win your idiotic arguments but it'll never work. You sound like an idiotic child trying to force your viewpoint on everyone else. If you want to sleep with anything that moves, go right ahead. That doesn't mean suddenly everyone has to be that way and have no standards, type, etc.

Oh and your part about saying "you blacks" are being "shat on" right now.. stop lying to yourself. Stop trying to use that as a weapon against everyone. THAT is why racism exists, because people like you keep using it as weapons to get what you want. Do you know how many black people I see like you that use racism daily? They go into a store, they don't get their way, they immediately go "It's because I'm black, isn't it?!" creating racism where it didn't exist whatsoever just so they'll get given their way. That's the ONLY reason you even bothered to bring up your race. The hilarious thing here is it's really the white men lately that get "shat on." People constantly now are making fun of us and then trying to be like "SEE! HOW'S IT FEEL?!" Like they can justify being racist, but if we do anything suddenly it's extremely wrong.

You even try to add at the end that ONLY white people can be racist.. which is absolutely hilarious that you'd even show off your idiocy to that level. That bit you mention about not being given any part in society? Yeah that's meant for you. We don't have any need or room for people as idiotic as you.

This thread is nonsense. This app is nonsense. Delete the app. It’s useless without the filters. No need to discuss any further. I don’t need some millennial to tell me I am racist cause I get to choose who I am attracted. I don’t need to be told what’s normal by a bunch of kids who can’t function without their phones. Enough. Really just find yourselves another hobby stop telling everyone what to think and do and deal with all the trauma you are so proud of flaunting everywhere else first.

@beeswax business

Could sexual attraction be based on prejudice and/or racism? Sure it can and is likely due in part to long-term systemic issues, but also due to male sexuality in that we need to be physically attracted to our partners for any kind of healthy sex/relationship to work. Does removing an ethnicity filter on a hookup app solve that problem? Not in any meaningful way. It just adds frustration, creates resentment and wastes everyone's time. Besides, this is not the place to fight the systemic battle, as it comes across as POLICING PEOPLE'S BEDROOM/DATING ACTIVITIES which creates a slippery slope back to eras (at least in the US, some still apply in other countries) with laws that ban homosexuality, interracial marriage, etc.

Beeswax Business,

Did anyone on this site make the claim that you are asking about? Even if there are a few people or many people out there who are prejudicial, do you think that because you are forced to show up on their screen, that they will date you? Do you think that's going to change their racial prejudices? Do you think that's going to help you get a date? I don't see how, but I'm open to hearing how.

Oh, about your earlier comment, we don't care how many different people of all
races took your seed, either. This is a forum, if we wanted to hear your smut stories, we'd go to a porn site, or ask you about it. That's a real civilized conversation you have going on there.

@Beeswax Business not everyone who rejects say a Chinese man on Grindr is doing it because they’re not attracted to Asians. Some people will be racist and reject for that reason.

But NOT having the filter isn’t going to make someone fuck a Chinese man if they’re racist against Chinese men or just don’t find Chinese men sexually attractive.

All that a filter will do is make it easier for people to do EXACTLY what they’re doing now and that’s scrolling past all the people they don’t find attractive be that old, young, fat, skinny, Asian, black, white, whatever.

I have a query for you guys. A simple query, really.

I want to know: Is it your intention to put forth the claim, that 100% of all individuals who conscientiously reject other humans—rejections made, specifically because of those humans' ethnicity / skin colour, and nothing else—never do so with prejudicial / racist reasoning?

That 100% of you who colour-exclude, exclude simply because "it's your preference," and not because you hold specific unfavourable biases against the targeted?

That a white, or asian, latin person who states "White or Latin only" / "No blacks (or Arabs)" only has the purest of intentions?

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On another note, I am less troubled by people who say "I only want to deal with my race," because at least those folks exclude *everyone else* equally. And their motives for their "prejudice" are pretty obvious.
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Thirdly, right now we blacks are the ones who are getting shat on, purposefully, the most in this world (with the American Indigenous / Latino, Indians, and Middle Easterners following quite closely).

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That is why I'm really not interested, at all, in any "but what-aboutisms?" towards those black people who do stipulate "No whites" — functionally, most white people could care less, and don't view this as a "loss" for them, anyway;
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I find it more substantially-more problematic, rather, when a fellow black person goes and proudly says "I'm into Whites" / "I'm into Whites / [Light-Skinned\White-presenting] Latinos" only — but perhaps even worse than them, are the Latin / White (and Arabs + Asians, as appropriate) people who suddenly can't find it within them to spare any words of reproach toward this obvious self-loathing black person.
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But, at the end of the day, here's what I'm really getting at—

—It is true that you, as a man who seeks relations with others of the male gender ("MSM" for short), are not obligated to be attracted to every man.
I wouldn't expect you to, seeing as I am not.

But at least have the balls to admit it when your reasoning for exclusion is based on prejudice and/or racism.
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(p.s. — Only whites can be racist. Whenever a BIPOC discriminates, it falls under the classification of prejudice.
If you wish to argue against me on this matter, then you're someone who "should be given no part in our society any longer," for real.)

@Don Garretson: you have described it perfectly.

Unfortunately some people will be hysterical at what you said and think not having a sexual attraction to a type = being racist. But those deluded snowflakes should be given no part in our society any longer.

Just like homosexuals are not attracted to females, not everyone is attracted to every other race. It is not always a racist reason, it's more of the same thing as not being attracted to your grandmother.
There are people who are attracted to very old men or young men, fat or skinny, dark or light skinned, etc. We don't control who we are attracted to (age, race, height, weight, etc.) anymore then we control being heterosexual, bisexual or homosexual.
We need the filter so we can find guys who may be "the one" without going through guys who 100% definitely are not "the one".

WHEN GRINDR is finally going to restore the filter?! It is voted here after all the 2nd biggest and most important issue here and a very large majority demands its restauration!

GRINDR! Please ANSWER!

@Hhggg This doesn't apply to just black people. That's a racism thing that exists for anything non-white. They're taught their identity *is* their race. They get taught by their parents and environment that if anything negative happens that means it's because of their race. If anything positive happens, and it comes from a white person, that's them showing pity, trying to make up for the past, etc.

The thing is nowadays it's flipped and people are massively racist against white people but then try to act like they're not or try to justify it as "now you know how it feels." But then go on to preach "equality" to everyone. If you look just about anywhere everyone acts like just because you're white suddenly you have all the advantages.. but really nowadays it's all of the other ethnicities that have huge advantages.. they get better government programs, better chances at getting into schools, etc all because they can be like "WELL I'M A MINORITY!" or scare everyone with throwing the race card around. There's so many people I've literally witnessed going into places and throwing around the race card to get free drinks, food, etc.

This has led to people thinking things like an ethnicity filter are suddenly "racist" because people have a preference on how their partner looks. Something that has always existed. Certain people prefer a skinnier person while others prefer a heavier person. Does that make them a horrible person? No. You can prefer a certain age as well and people don't find that offensive typically. However, now when someone prefers the looks of certain races suddenly that's completely offensive and you're not allowed to be like that anymore.

Like you said, it's extremely sad that these people are so stupid they see things so black and white. Just because I prefer a certain look or type for the guys I'm with doesn't mean I can't/won't interact with others outside of that. I'm not sexually attracted to black people.. that's just how it has always been. I like black people though and will gladly interact with them. Just like I'm not attracted to women but I will gladly interact with them.

All of this is pointless though because it seems Grindr won't bother to look at this and add the filter back. The app has become a cesspool of degeneracy anyway - something it was always going towards, but has gotten far worse recently.

@Mw - the problem is that many black people are taught that they live in an extremely racist world, and will always get held back in everything they do because of white racism. They are taught that they should see their identity as being "black" and nothing else. Is it any wonder they are held back because of this terribly dangerous way of thinking? To them, everything is racist. Each and every disparity that exists between them and a white person = racism. It's extremely sad.

@john dough: It’s the same for me. I live in one of the largest and most affluent black counties in the US. I’m white. I moved here on purpose (too many white people make me nervous lol). I’m constantly being told that I am “obviously racist” from folks that have never talked to or met me. I was married (twice) to an AA woman (same woman, longer story) and have three beautiful mixed race children (they are all adults now). I’m constantly met with profiles from AA men that literally say “BLACK MEN ONLY” or “BROTHERS ONLY” or “NO WHITE MEN” — but *I* am the racist? Racism DOES go both ways. I’m an open minded guy that runs a company promoting diversity and equal opportunities…but no one will give me a shot to find out. All they see is “white”

I agree! As a black person , that ethnicity filter gives me a better experience when I wanna hookup. I generally am open to all races but many white gays in America are horribly racist. Now since hate speech is closely monitored in profiles the new tactic is to just ignore you like you don’t exist. They take up tons of space and is the worst cock block . I can avoid this by filtering and talking to other black guys .

1. It is not racist to prefer an ethnicity. (If it were, all homosexuals are also misogynists.) 2. Even if it were, people have other reasons for the filter. For example, an expat/tourist in a foreign country, who isn't there for the sex trade. Unpreferred POCs are not going to get more attention on the app bc of this modification. People just block them. Some POCs (see 2) in foreign countries would also like to speak only to people who know their language. I've been rejected by a Chinese guy because of this, and it is understandable. This "surely, it's racist" thinking is like an Orwellian novel combined with the movie "idiocracy." You're doing something "noble," but in fact you are forcing something on people who cannot change their preferences anyway. It is juvenile thinking. Also, I wonder if there are even some religions that mandate a same ethnicity partner.

Without the filter, there is really no reason to pay for premium anyway. And, I quit doing so.

@Kevin Kurniawan - and your non-attraction to women makes you a sexist mysoginistic pig. And your non-attraction to double amputees means you hate disabled people. And your non-attraction to 97yo men in care homes means you are ageist! [SARCASM]

So my attraction or lack thereof towards someone is making me racist. Great job people. You're now forcing me to alter my preferences.

@ ES
I refuse to believe "every single black person" (in your area) seek only trans. I feel like there probably were black men who've previously expressed interest in you but you turned them down for not being your type (which is fine, that's your right to not be attracted to everyone).
I might've been more likely to had lent credence to your lament if you had stated instead "every single black man WHO IS MY TYPE seem to only want chicks with dicks."

Never-the-less...
...I agree with you, 100%, GrindR should (if for no one else) be allowing unlimited members the capability to filter by ethnicity and by gender expression.

If I were paying GrindR for "premium" service, I know I would want to option to unclog my grid of those individuals whom I never will be attracted to—I am turned on by male / masculine features, which can include the transmen who completely commit to being men—and from those who never will be attracted to me, as I am not a girly boy.

The self-loathing, scared boys who are too afraid to face off with *real* men.

The unfortunate guys who probably could have benefitted from some real, serious counseling / intervention — I know *some* people were born in the wrong bodies.. ..But *this* many males with "gender dysphoria"? (Pretty troubling, indeed..)
Moreover, I can just look at their pictures and tell they're dealing with mental health issues, even serious mental dysfunction. These dudes made their little "switch," emulating what they think it means to be a woman, and they're still not happy. (If anything, their problems are now multiplied.)

On the other hand.. ..Nothing about GrindR strikes me as being worth $40 a month. Basic functionalities which Scruff has, GrindR wants to charge us for.

At any rate, I hope you are not under the impression every black man is "like that."
We are not.

@ Cody Padgett
It is true you didn't come right *out* with saying 'The "N" Word' (the "N" word with the hard "-er"), but you might as well have.
Because, with all those words in your comment down there, and you chose to only abbreviate "people" — in reference to us black people.

Yep.

You conscientiously-chose to reduce us to just "ppl" because, in your eyes, we're not even worthy of the consideration of the full word "people."

"Ethnicity" and "Majority" and "Actually" require more effort to spell out than "people," so I don't want to hear any bullshit from you about "I was just saving time" or "I didn't mean it that way."

You managed to cram in so many micro-aggressions against African-Americans, within the span of those fifteen words... ...You should just come out and say you don't like black PEOPLE.

First of all, I am a black man, and I am in support of restoring the ethnicity filter.
(So on that basis alone, automatically, your assertion of "It's only the black ppl" is factually inaccurate.)

I am a black man, and I don't arbitrarily restrict my attraction to ANYONE based solely on their skin colour or perceived ethnicity — so I have no need (nor desire) for that sort of "filter" myself.

I am a black man, and I want the ethnicity filter restored.. ..Though, on the condition, all those individuals who find my black skin problematic / repulsive, reciprocally-are filtered out of MY grid, so I don't have to see THEM.
i don't have a need to see prejudiced, racist bigots — and good riddance.

second of all, it's not the ethnicity filter "black ppl" have the beef with — our beef is with the racist, bigoted prejudiced assholes who see no problems with their behaviour.

i'd love to know what you think about the indian, latin, thai, white, philipino, cantonese, arab men who willing buried their faces in my crotch — who all made it exceedingly clear, to me, they wanted to be bred with my black seed.
black seed, explicitly, from MY black dick.

you reckon something is wrong with them, because of this desire? are you thinking, "how can they want to lay with a lowly n--ger like that? don't they have any higher standards for themselves?!"?

you can't conceive such a desire is possible?

you can't conceive it possible, people being attracted to others 'in spite of,' 'because of,' OR 'regardless of' colour?

Every black person in my area is looking only for trans and every trans person is looking for black. So why am I lookin at a grid of all women and men who won’t have sex with a man?? I’m so confused? Is this some sort of an art installation illustrating a modern version of the myth of Sisyphus or are you just really this cruel with your sense of humor to charge me what you charge for unlimited and give me no filtering capability. I’m so very very confused.

It's only the black ppl on Grindr that have an issue with the ethnicity filter. Majority of all other races don't care and actually support it!