Separate section for trans people and their admirers
I think trans men and trans women along with people who are trans-attracted deserve to have their own separate posting section. That way, trans community members and their admirers can better easily connect with one another. It would be beneficial and make sense to give trans people and their seekers their own platform, connected to the rest of Grindr but as a section within the existing app. You could call it GrindrTrans or something.
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D G
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Yea this is very disappointing having to weed through the people just to find other gay men, half them trans girls wanting to be gay , or str8 men wanting you to either be a trans cd or wanting to watch you bang their wifes its just getting to out of control they definitely need their own app and platform for what they are seeking and to stay off ours thats for gay men
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Greg Alberque
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I don't care for exclusion, however I am a masculine bottom and it's truly disappointing that I see a aggressive dl straight discreet top and there it is tran or cd only. Again no offense but they are growing in numbers and it would just help to not have to weed through that as well. Also slightly disappointing to see some of these guys pigeon hole there limited needs. Thanks for hearing.
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Sean
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Remove them completely.
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Anthony Cooper
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Agree totally that trans people and trans attracted people should have their own site. As an individual, gay man in my case, i have preferences relating to the men I am attracted to. I have the right to openly state I'm not interested sexually in trans individuals, twinks, total bottoms, Asians, Caucasians or whatever it may be without fear of persecution by the politically correct or being in violation of and being banned from a sex hook up site. Being constantly contacted by trans individuals, total bottoms and twinks I see as being a violation of my rights. Those same individuals may be out standing individuals yet I have no desire to have sex with them and as I attempt to respond to all messages sent to me I find it uncomfortable to have to reject those individuals, who if they had read my profile would not have contacted me. Stating your preferences on your profile should be encouraged and anyone vilifying another for Stating their preferences should be the one that is reprimanded. I've lived my life in rural and regional areas and have had to stand up for my self and who I am as a gay man yet now the situation has become that I am expected to not only be comfortable being approached on a sex hook up app by individuals who are not what I am attracted to. I have been told on numerous occasions by those who believe they are enlightened and politically correct that i am expected to accept this, which is a form of sexual harassment especially if my profile states I'm not interested and that person contacts me regardless. I have also been informed that as a gay man I should accept as a sexual partner and happily have sex with trans men. I reject that assumption totally on the grounds that a trans man as nice a bloke and as hot looking as he may be is not and never will be a man, I am attracted to men, men who have a penis and definitely have no desire to include a vagina, no matter what "type" of individual it is part of into my sexual exexperience. .
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Pete Bennett
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If there were a somewhat easier way to filter out trans / CD folk, I think that would solve my discomfort (turning off the 'trans' tribe in filters does not work). I mean no offense to the two communities, but as someone who is very not turned on by women, it's a repetitive turn-off (on a paid app) that has me spending most of time on the app tediously and manually blocking folks to keep the grid, well, sexy (subjectively!).
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Deb Gar
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I agree with him you start telling people you a full guy and show up some where pull those pants down god forbid someone hurts u for letting them think ur actually a gay male , i would think you guys would want your own app not to be on one for gay men seeking gay men not a woman who wants to be a gay guy like what is that haha
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Anonymous
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Ever notice that the trans and trans-chasers started to flock over to Grindr right after Craigslist shut down its personals section? CL even had several trans categories (t4m, m4t, etc.) that were separate from men-seeking-men (m4m). Where was all the outrage, bullying, and gaslighting from the trans community THEN like we are seeing NOW? The vast majority of GAY MEN (sexual orientation) are not on Grindr looking for trans/trans-chasers (gender identity), so it makes sense to create separate sections for the two groups.
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Anonymous
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@Eventide
I agree, to me it's like this obscene idea that everyone is ment to like everyone (friend wise) now apparently have to find everyone sexually pleasing.
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Eventide
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@Zari, just because someone doesn't fully agree with you doesn't mean they suddenly have a phobia. Are you going to say I'm sexist against women because I'm gay? Are you going to say I suddenly have a phobia against women because I'm gay? No because that's a sexual preference. I can be friends with women. I can be friends with trans people - I actually have quite a few of them. Funny thing is they all agree that trans people should have their own site/app and place. It's usually people, like I'd assume you are, that aren't trans who keep coming out calling everyone "transphobic" because they don't agree with your idiotic movements.
I've never heard of Fiorry, but Tinder and Facebook dating aren't designed for trans people. They're both just all encompassing dating apps. Grindr is literally an app for ONLY gay men. That's how it started and that's what it's always been geared towards. Recently though women, straight people, and now trans people have started creating accounts and acting like they should be catered to. Would you go into a Starbucks and demand McDonalds? No, but that's what you people are doing to Grindr.
The funny thing here too is you even say that "trans is an identity".. yet you people make it into a sexuality by saying you won't say if you're actually trans or not. Like the last person I replied to saying they will not say they're a trans man now just man. That's not an identity, that's quite literally false advertisement because you're saying you are something you completely aren't. A trans man is not a man they are a trans man. That's not "transphobia" that's just the complete scientific truth that you morons are too stupid to accept but tell everyone else to grow up.
Genetalia does determine sex.. a female does not have a penis nor the ability to produce sperm. A female instead produces eggs. You can say you're a "trans man" that doesn't suddenly mean you produce sperm.. you literally will never be able to no matter what you do because your body doesn't have that genetic makeup to be capable of it.
As for your whole thing about "intersex people" they're literally a mutation and not typical whatsoever. It's an extremely rare occurrence that can happen in quite a few species. That doesn't mean they suddenly are the definition of something because of a mutation. Are people with down syndrome the norm? No.. they're again a mutation that causes them to be different.
Your other asinine example is women born without a uterus.. once again they're a rare occurrence and it's again a mutation that caused it. They're not typical and yes a woman without a uterus isn't a woman by typical definition. Before you try some other idiotic crap, look at the actual definition of female: "of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes." That's flat out science and definition.. you don't get to just break that and change that because you say so.
None of this is "transphobia" or sexist. It's just pure fact and science that you refuse to accept because you're too stupid or too young. You'd instead like to just keep fighting to be that "unique butterfly" because you need drama and attention in your life.
Funny thing is you try to say "you can state your opinion" but then go on about how "wrong" my opinion is and act like your opinion is entirely correct. Meanwhile everything you fight against isn't an opinion it's just cold hard fact and science.
As for your idiotic "Science is always changing" thing, while that's true, it doesn't mean suddenly you get to wake up one day like "SUDDENLY SCIENCE IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BECAUSE I SAY SO!!"... there's literally no scientific data to back up anything you say. If anything, there's only data AGAINST what you say.. but you don't like that so you'll just ignore it and act like it doesn't exist.
In the end, trans people should have their own section, app, and/or dating site. It'll give them a place to be themselves and find people that are actually attracted to them rather than forcing an entire section of people that'll never be attracted to it. If you're a "trans man" I will NEVER be attracted to you.. I'm a gay man you don't have what I want. You can keep idiotically calling it "transphobia" all you want but I won't suddenly be like "OH.. SUDDENLY I'M ATTRACTED TO YOU!!" Stop trying to gaslight people into accepting you and being attracted to you and actually make good arguments. Just be yourself in your own place and eventually you'll find someone.
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zari
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@Eventide Yikes !!! you thought you ate that ??? your transphobia is showing . You can state your opinion without trying to dehumanize a group that already faces systemic oppression.
Trans ppl do deserve their own spaces and they have apps for that (Fiorry, Tinder, even Facebook Dating) However most trans women STARTED on grindr just like most gay men bc it was literally all we had!!!! Most of these new apps are just now converting to a more inclusive platform for trans people.
Also you do understand that being trans is an identity not a sexual orientation.. Therefore intersectionality exists you can be trans and bi, trans and straight, trans and gay, ect so when you say “Gay as in homosexual male” it really doesnt give.
“If you're a "trans man" you're not a man. You don't have a penis, testes, or anything that genetically makes you a man.”
yeah its giving transphobia.. genes and chromosomes do determine sex however genitalia DOES NOT . intersex people (which may fall under the trans umbrella) can have both vagina and testes and be assigned male at birth . or they may have a penis and ovaries it can vary on a spectrum just like sexual orientation. Everything is not black and white. You sound like the people who say trans women arent real women bc they cant bleed and have kids but then that would mean women born without a uterus or have PCOS are “not real women” too ? right because genitalia does not determine sex or gender . literally chromosomes are the only thing that does . Ever heard that we all start off as female embryo then are sex determined 6 weeks after by just the switch of one gonad . Science is fun because its always changing.
Anyway as i said before you can state your opinions without being transphobic. Which i know is tough because 99% of the world has internalized transphobia (including trans people) its just the way it is . Peace
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David Portillo
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Yes, This needs to happen now! I been so fustrated ! With trans replying to me as if I would ever be interested! It's just like a straight women replying to me a gay guy! I have no interest! I am gay ! I only want gay men. I don't have anything against trans people! But it's not fair to share the site designed for Gay men! The are just like straight replying to gays it's actually not right or fair to me. I talk with many who agree and feel as I do! That why they should have there own category that gives them there own space for people who have those interest! It really disgusted me to see female appearing on Grindr! I will never be interested in any type of female Iam Gay!
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Eventide
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@Lynx So I see you're one of "those" that acts like everything's suddenly "fetishized".. trans people deserve to have their own space. Grindr is meant to be a GAY DATING APP.. in case you can't read, that says GAY as in homosexual and male. There are apps specifically for gay, straight, christian, asian, etc.. yet the moment someone says have a space for trans you people pop up like "THAT'S NOT RIGHT! THAT'S FETISHIZING!"
If you're a "trans man" you're not a man. You don't have a penis, testes, or anything that genetically makes you a man. You may butcher your body and force it to look one particular way, but you still are lacking the equipment. It'd be like me saying I want a burger, go to a restaurant and order one, then they give me a veggie burger instead. What I wanted was meat not plants..
As for "stop putting your insecurities on us" who at any point did that? All that has been said is that trans people should have their own section or app. You are NOT a man. You are NOT gay. You're not what the vast majority of people on Grindr are looking for. Yet you try to act like we absolutely have to be attracted to you. Suddenly because you randomly say so you're a "man" and everyone needs to accept you as one, be attracted to you as one, etc. That's not us putting our insecurities on you.. that's you forcing everyone else to be a particular way.
You also say to "mind your own business"... then again why are you forcing your way into an app that's not made for you whatsoever and forcing everyone to accept you? Why wouldn't you just prefer to have a place literally designed for you and people that are attracted to you? I'm a gay man that wants gay men so you don't see me going to ChristianMingle.com and signing up forcing everyone to accept me for what I am and acting like if they don't suddenly that's "fetishizing" me...
You need to grow up and shut up. Learn that all you have done is butcher your body (if you've even gone that far) and literally tried to defy science all because you said so because you need to be some special "unique" butterfly because you feel that's the only way you'll get the attention you never got as a child.
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Lynx
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No. We don't want to be fetishized or chased just because we're trans. There's a lot of transphobia in these comments. Being transgender is a private matter between me and the person it's necessary to convey to deeming the situation. It's not a matter of politics. I will no longer be putting on my profile "trans man" after seeing this. I am just a man. That's it. Cis men need to grow up and stfu. Stop putting your insecurities on us. You're so sensitive it's ridiculous. Just mind your own business and don't come into ours.
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Anonymous
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"Cas commented · January 12, 2021 1:46 PM · Flag as inappropriate
I really hate this idea. I already hate that chasers use the 'trans' tribe to seek out trans people. This would only encourage chasers to think its okay to fetishize(?) trans people."I'm missing something, wasn't grindr a dating app? shouldn't people look for what they're looking for? or probably Cas thinks that a man fancy trans should refrain to look for them and force himself to date a hairy butch manly man? Can we also please stop using this ideological construct of fetishisation in this manner as it makes no sense?
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Anonymous
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JeepBear74 this is a gay DATING application not a political manifesto. No user has to "CHANGE" their sexual preferences and desires. GRINDR HAS TO CHANGE TO CATER TO HIS USERS. We shouldn't be the product of a social engineering project. The product is Grindr and the service is helping us to FILTER OUT ANYONE we are not interested in order to find THE MATCH. This are the FACTS. Anything else is STUPID WOKE RADICAL LEFT WING IDEOLOGY emanating from far away in California. And put back that bloody ethnic filter if you want to see my money ever again!
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Ben Poholek
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I agree with users asking for filters rather than another profile. As a transmasc person, it’s perfectly reasonable to assume that some gay men will be interested in me. I would prefer not to be filtered out completely and put on a different platform that would be rife with fetishization…more so than the trans filter already is.
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skywalker19761976
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Please do it, here in the UK it's literally 50:50...give them their own space. Grindr is not for gays anymore... I dont judge anyone, live and let live but this issue we t too far..sometimes it's like collection of mental health here🤦♂️
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Howie
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Add this!
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Alberto
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I am more attracted to trans men so, I would welcome a feature where you can choose what kind of person you are attracted to rather than lumping all non-binary people together under one category
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Johnny Bravo
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Omggggggg I cannot anymore. Listen I’m here for everyone’s joy but omg!!!! Straight men are now on the app.