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An error occurred while saving the comment An error occurred while saving the comment m commentedAs someone who is black, I disagree.
By stating that you wouldn’t date a certain group, you are essentially claiming that their superficial qualities would make it impossible for you to form an emotional connection – which is, in fact, prejudice.
Not dating someone on the basis of hair color sounds silly..yet time and time again, racial preferences are shrugged off as a legitimate and immutable aspect of sexual individuality, to the point where questioning them is demonized as threatening someone’s personal expression with uptight, irrational political correctness.
To clarify, inclusionary racial preferences can be racist as well. Saying that you only want to date a specific race is equally problematic because it defines someone by their ethnicity.
Assuming that someone’s racial background gives them more desirable qualities reflects harmful histories of colonialism and the exotification and fetishization that went along with it.
Basically, if someone’s skin color alone is enough to make you attracted or not attracted to them, take a step back and think about your life choices. Racial preferences aren’t a celebratory, untouchable birthright transmitted to you in the womb.
They aren’t a demarcation of any kind of fundamental individuality or any of the things that make you you.
It’s learned cultural bias, plain and simple.
You can’t possibly claim that you know for a fact that every single person of a given race or ethnicity has no chance of falling in love with you based entirely on physical appearance.
Many people will use the “exposure” excuse as a justification for their preferences, asserting that they have very little experience interacting with a certain group.
If anything, that makes your argument even more misguided because you are basically admitting that you’ve never been given the opportunity to try and form relationships with anyone from that community, so how do you even have enough information to “know” that you won’t be attracted to people that you’ve never met?
Implied universalism is not only biased, but dangerous in the ways that it allows racial and cultural hierarchies to persist while enabling the individual to avoid any self-introspection of the factors that led to the formation of this perspective.
The idea of “cherry picking” races to somehow magically have an ideal partner or relationship due to the racial dynamic alone needs to stop. Not only is it unreliable and illogical, but it propagates and validates oppression.
TL;DR:
Racial preferences reduce people to their ethnicity and reinforce racial hierarchies by insinuating that race alone is a powerful enough factor to negate everything else that someone has to offer.
Claiming that someone is unworthy of associating with you because of race and hiding behind the flimsy excuse of sexual tastes or lack of hypothetical romantic chemistry is racist.
It’s true that anyone can have undesirable traits and you shouldn’t feel obligated to be with a person solely for inclusivity’s sake, but that doesn’t mean that those traits are ethnically specific.
You can’t know whether or not you have chemistry with someone unless you get to know them.
replying to @Galateus:
Did you read any of your comment before posting?
“lay aside his or her social conditioning in order that he or she might engage in sexual intimacy with someone of a gender that they find a complete turn-off, and so it is with race” — You’re missing the entire point. The very idea of finding someone a “complete turn-off” based solely on their race is racist.
I don’t understand how you can relate this to gender and sex at all. In the app store this app’s description reads “gay social network and chat... for gay, bi, trans, and queer people to connect” no where in the official description is it listed or marketed as a hookup app. If that’s what you’d like to use the app for then that’s your choice, however, why, when people are using this app to network and socialize —as intended by its developers —should one be allowed to filter out an entire demographic solely on the basis of race? That’s exactly how systemic racism was formed. What if that was an option on Facebook, Twitter, or LinkedIn? Do you see the problem?
Let’s say that we do want to reel this back to hookups...
“For a lot of us sexual attraction is directly linked to what we perceive to be race [...] since a large number of users are here for a hookup, and they know what they like, no amount of diversity training is going to make them want to have an afternoon of fun with an ethnic group they find repugnant.”
1.) Repugnant? Seriously? You mean to tell me that finding an entire ethnic group “repugnant” isn’t prejudiced? I would like to refer you to my last post. The one you clearly replied to without actually reading.
2.) Why should Grindr continue to give people the tools to perpetuate prejudice and racism? No one is forcing anyone to hookup with someone (again, see my last post.) If you choose to practice prejudice and racism, you’re more than welcome to simply not interact with a person. However, saying that you don’t find someone attractive solely because of race or ethnicity is my and many other well-read users’ points.
3.) “Sexual attraction is directly linked to race” & “They know that they like” - No, it’s not. You’re implying fetishization and exotification... I talked about that, briefly —again in my last post (anyone else starting to see a trend here?) but I’ll give you the Cliff’s notes:
- Finding someone attractive solely by race and ethnicity is fetishization, exotification, and prejudice... which is bad.
- Finding someone unattractive solely by race and ethnicity is prejudice... which is bad.
- Denying someone opportunities, of which would have been afforded to others, solely because of their race or ethnicity is racist (by very definition I might add)... which is bad.
- The “social conditioning” you speak of is the very reason things like systemic racism exist... which is bad.
- Grindr is a social network, just like other social networks, users can choose to use it for hookups if they like as long as their behavior doesn’t break the platforms term of service or make the platform unsafe or unwelcoming for its users... which would be bad.
- Grindr allowing acts of prejudice and racism to persist on their platform makes them complicit... which is bad.