Raul Torres,

Pot calling the kettle black. Step one before responding read what was written. I said: “sexual intercourse” and yet you responded with comments about “sexual orientation”. It’s apples and oranges. I just watched a documentary about heterosexual men, as they identify, engaging in homosexual sexual intercourse for a job. They are self identifying straight men working in gay porn, some enjoy the physical sensations of the sex but are not attracted to men. That is why I specifically said gay sexual intercourse. If a straight couple uses a strap on it’s not gay sexual intercourse because it is still sexual intercourse between opposite sexes. If you go to the hospital do you ask for sources or do you accept that they have a degree (even though you never see it)? If you want I can pull out the science and medical textbooks and the DSM because I have them, a requirement of the degrees. Merriam-Webster’s Medical Dictionary defines homosexuality as erotic activity with another of the same sex. Sex is defined as either of the two major forms of individuals that occur in many species and that are distinguished respectively as male or female. Pansexual is not listed. Asexual is lacking sex or functional sexual organs. Transsexual is a long one that comes down to identifying as the opposite sex and undergoing treatment including hormone and surgery to achieve the physical appearance of the desired sex, which implies that one does not go halfway and then stop because then they would still have the physical appearance of their birth sex and desired sex.

Where are your sources? Not that I’m expecting to get an answer to it, because you’re a troll.

Cody, your posts are a masterclass in showcasing unyielding, closed-minded beliefs to the entire internet. Please, continue...your contributions might just propel humanity towards solving some of our deepest societal issues. Especially when people, so certain of their understanding of medical definitions and scientific publications, conveniently forget to source or reference any of it.

I wasn't initially inclined to dignify your simplistic arguments with a response. But if it helps others grasp the complexities of this topic, then I'm all in.

Let’s set the record straight, Cody: sexuality is a spectrum. It’s not the tidy, black-and-white categories you cling to. Reality is intricate, diverse, and far from your outdated, cookie-cutter stereotypes. As you stubbornly defend your rigid views, you’re not just revealing your narrow perspective, but also exposing a vein of deep-rooted discrimination cloaked in pseudo-intellectual language.

Totally agree grindr use to be just men now it seems like translate are taking over

Totally agree. Inclusivity is great until the groups the app was oroginally designed for start to feel wxcluded. For me grimdr is for men to meet men - not women, not trans. Set up a new app

Isn’t it neat how there’s trans only filters, trans only sites, trans all over the old LGB sites—- but lesbians and gay guys are getting the “disappear or hit screeeeeed at by mentally ill people”

It's so ridiculous any more the app is no longer what it once was. I feel stupid for spending the outrageous subscription fee to always end up getting off of Grinder frustrated and angry for having to deal with all the unwanted solicitations and profiles I DO NOT WANT TO PAY TO DEAL WITH. The only thing the creators are obviously concerned with is making money any way possible. The only way they might understand and change anything is if we gays looking for others gay men only, unsubscribe from the app untill it is what it's supposed to be.

Luis,

You seem to be mistaken trans-women don’t have a penis that is why they are women. Generally individuals go through counseling to ensure that if they start the process of transitioning from one sex to another they will complete the process with all the surgeries. Stopping partway through is indicative of a psychological problem, by current medical psychological standards. Scientific and medical definitions would say an individual with secondary sexual characteristics of both sexes would be a hermaphrodite not a man. Considering gay sexual intercourse is defined as intercourse between two people of the same sex, if one person has secondary sexual characteristics of a female and the other has secondary sexual characteristics of a male then it’s not gay sex.

The question for you is if you are only interested in women why would you join an app that is for men who are interested in men? If you like women why would you join an app that only has men on it?

I love trans woman with all my heart but it’s gay sex she has a penis and balls I only like cis women and trans woman I’m sorry i just do it’s gay sex in the end of the day with a trans woman the end

I am happy

So true. Get trans and trans-chasers off Grindr.

Justen,

I have asked that question of trans people themselves. If you identify as a female and are attracted to men then you are not gay, you are actually straight. I have never received an answer as to why trans people are grouped with gay people, other than the comment of gay guys are very feminine, and then look at me and say well most and lesbians are masculine. That is why trans are grouped with gays because of the stereotype that gay guys are very feminine.

I've never understood why people group trans people along with homosexuals. The two have nothing common. Furthermore trans people have more in common with heterosexuals than gays. Now find me a heterosexual male who is willing to close his eyes for the sake of the country and i tell you i will go nuts!

Agree 100% it getting very annoying that the app I have used a gay man for almost ever is now almost 1/3 coverage on my limited space on phone shows Trans, Females, Fem, Lesb, Str8 Couple, etc. - Get the idea, If I'm paying for a gay app as a gay man I want to be able to only deal with other gay men not females or imitation Females if did I would be str8.

I'm just going to call it, Grindr has completely refocused its efforts on a different community.

They no longer wish to be affiliated with the gay male community.

Grindr has gone FEM, and actively pushes away users that aren't interested in female or trans. They think they can harass and punish users who explicitly state in their profiles they are not interested in fem or trans, as if we are making a transphobic statement, by saying we are not sexually attracted to members of those communities. From my personal experience: I had a simple line on my profile, stating "I am a biological male who is attracted only to other biological males", to which I received a warning saying I had violated community standards, and they edited my profile to remove it.

Grindr is no long a safe or fun space for masculine men who are attracted to other masculine men.

The lack of responses from devs, on any of these posts on their new features website, proves that they don't really care about the community at all. I feel like this grinder feature suggestion thing, is just a sham so they can say look we're doing something... While they completely ignore it, behind their closed doors

It is sad to see them abandon the community that actively built them!

They just need to relabel their app as "grindHer"

Yes!!! Please! We understand everyone. But Grindr is for GAY MEN.

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This app was created with the intention of being used by gay MALES. When did this concept change? Why do we now have women of various types, OVERPOPULATING the app? I'm not saying they should be banned, but I still don't want to see or be contacted by women at any time while using an APP FOR GAY MEN.

That said, GRINDR no longer feels like a safe space for GAY MALES. If they no longer wish to SUPPORT the gay MALE community, they need to stop wasting our time, and just say so!

This is not an *inclusivity* issue. This is not a phobia issue.

This is a discrimination issue. Grindr seems to be punishing males for not being attracted women or trans. EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO SEXUAL ATTRACTION PREFERENCES, WITHOUT BEING DISCRIMINATED FOR THEM!! I am in no way required to be attracted to women, or former women. I do not want to be subjected to their presence on an app ORIGINALLY INTENDED FOR GAY MALES! It works like this: "let me browse and see who's around, huh absolutely no I'm attracted to, these all look very feminine and I am not attracted to females, okay back to scruff." They need their own safe space.

Personally, everyone needs to stop messing around with the dumb lgbtqialmnop crap. It's getting rather absurd with the ever increasing letter additions. If we are going to blanket label everyone who isn't straight under one banner, then call it the non-straight community, instant "inclusivity" for everyone.

So odd, I added a link to this thread on my Grindr account, and someone on the admin team altered the link to break it... Hmmm.... >:-(

To Ray J…
Exactly right!
Now if the rest of the wandering automatons on here accepted their Grindr fate, cancelled their subscriptions, maybe heads would roll up at GrindrCo!
BTW…I like your choice for the new app names!

It's simple, Grindr was created for gay men to find gay men ! I'm a gay man..not on a Trans site, not on a lesbian site...not going to be....unless I become interested in Trans or lesbians. Grindr is open to all so Grindr can get more subscribers and the stupid ads that run after every action. So, either update the filters or make Lindr & Trindr...

I am trans and I find Grindr a safer space to find guys who are into us. I don’t harrass or initiate contact with guys because I know most of you are gay and only into gay, I let those into us initiate the contact. I believe we can co-exist, the filter section should be refined by the ap developer to avoid annoyance by the majority of gay users.

There are other apps out there for trans and so far I find Grindr is still the best and safe. Tindr is a no go because it’s not for lgbt.

That’s all