alright.

kris?

may i pose you these queries?

these queries, on who you are sexually attracted to?
on, who you aren't sexually attracted to?

i'll set the framework for what sort of response to give that, by answering ´em myself:

mainly,
but not 100% exclusively,
my attraction lay with normal(-ish) cis-men who, for most occasions, land between 5.5 - 8.5, out of 10, on the feminine↔androgynous↔masculine spectrum¹;

i am open to relations with some vagina-bearing trans•men — and, yes, i believe i would engage in cunnilingus with a trans•man. . . . .so long as 𝚎𝚡𝚌𝚎𝚙𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚊𝚕 Personal Hygiene, 𝒂𝒏𝒅 Grooming, are observed;

i can connect (and 𝙝𝙖𝙫𝙚 connected) with masculine-looking, but slightly "campy," hombres too
(for example...
...i'm imagining 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝗲𝗿𝗻-𝗲𝗿𝗮 𝗶𝘇𝗮𝗮𝗸 𝘀𝗺𝗶𝘁𝗵
—who i 𝒂𝒍𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒅𝒚 have a huge crush on, just as a general matter of speaking—
as good-natured, campy muscle bear: i reckon i'd stick to izaak like purple on an eggplant

{ha ha})

so long as, i can pick up on a modicum of The Essence of Man (as I define it), with the person whom i'm dealing. . . . .

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for the other side of the coin:
simply, i feel no natural sexual\emotional attraction for women
• to, overt / wanton effeminateness
• "traditional" / "conventional" female traits
• 𝒉𝒚𝒑𝒆𝒓-feminization
• breasts, and ᴄᴜʀᴠᴀᴄᴇᴏᴜꜱɴᴇꜱꜱ, do nothing for me, either

one's hairstyling, also, matters—
—keeping it brief: i'll tell you i gravitate, heavily, toward "conventionality (𝘵𝘪𝘱𝘰 𝘮𝘢𝘴𝘤𝘶𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘰)"

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so...
...tell me who you piques you, kris

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¹ are there any men who *naturally* place a 9.0 - 10 out of 10, on this spectrum?
they're probably exceedingly rare
i rank myself as 7.4 - 8.1, typically
i do experience 6.6 or, even, 5.9 days, every now and then

(🅶🆄🆁🅻🅵🆁🅴🅽)

I'm sick and tired of straight women and males having "fun" creating fake profiles Just so they can connect with a "real" gay man.
Faceless profiles and incognito mode is bs
Make the app gay again.

WoW you all are extremely phobic of anyone who isn't a bio male.

Grindr has a lot of flaws but it is way better than all of the dating apps like Tinder and Bumble. Everyone should just learn to coexist and get along.

oh.

by the by.

i was only, sort of, rhetorically asking you guys about whether a large number of female-presenting men engage in the practice of Block Evasion,
via deleting•then•re-creating accounts,
AND/OR through creating multiple concurrent accounts.

i can tell you point blank, the "women" also do this.

All.
The.
Time.

i wanted to upload 9 screenshots, documenting 4 such "women"; however, the option to attach files from within uservoice has been removed since the last time i utilized it..
..so i'm forced to leave Links to an outside site to do the job

by-the-by (2):
there are, on my block list, scads more "women" besides the four i'm featuring,
who have, several times, "lost their chats";
but i'm not trying to spend all day combing through my Shit List — i reached my maximum on it, probably, back in 2021

(that's a lot to try showcasing)

at any rate, all of this is more geared towards the individuals who love chiming in with, "if you don't like seeing trans people, just block them"

yeah?

if only it were that simple. . . . .

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at this point..
..what good is blocking, anyway?
when thoughtless, selfish people who only think with their second brains, simply circumvent it every time via Delete / Re•Create—
—or, worse, by conjuring up Multis: causing us Disinterested Folk to eventually have several dead accounts in our block lists, wasting space?

that of itself should be a bannable offense

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you will take note, there are plenty of cis-men (a couple of whom, may be considered very "conventionally attractive") in my blocks too

so —again— i don't want to hear anything about "transphobia"

as, in case you need reminding of this: i am a **gay** man

not "heterosexual"
not bi-sexual
not hetero-flexible

i don't have any weird or "alternative" definitions of Gay going on.
meaning, i'm only seeking men (convincing, normal{-ish} transmen included).
thusly, it is a categorical Waste of Time for me, for women (a.k.a. "female-presenting men") to be on my grid,
as it is a inexorable Waste of Time for women, for me to be on their grids.

it's GrindR.
not Christian Mingle.

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here are my screenshots of the "Artful" Dodgers

https://ibb.co/KzQJSbP
https://ibb.co/bmsnZ6G
https://ibb.co/P1RB04Z
https://ibb.co/dJ1tNZp
https://ibb.co/0QmxjMW
https://ibb.co/rFtd2bd
https://ibb.co/rsxgX4f
https://ibb.co/N3qCXxH
https://ibb.co/Bcq6DmR

for those of you who think you might notice a pattern—
—let me make it known, it just so happens that One Segment of the trans\woman population in my area are more prone to "losing their chats" / not taking "no" for an answer than others
which is why, that segment is the one which got showcased the most in my screencaps

don't worry: i am an Equal Opportunity Blocker

ya know..
..all of this is reminding me of one of the very first things i did, after creating my inaugural account (back in 2019) and getting on the grid — which was, going on a mass Bʟᴏᴄᴋɪɴɢ Exᴘᴇᴅɪᴛɪᴏɴ, (fruitlessly) removing each and every "woman" / androgynous person who appeared there

(by the by: i hold no hard feelings for anyone who wishes to block me, due to my being and looking like a masculine cis-man;
so, i don't want to hear anything about "transphobia" or "gynophobia" — especially if you're an androphobe

𝐭𝐨 𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐡 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫 𝐨𝐰𝐧, right?)

i have to wonder.. ..are there really 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘺 transgender women, and gender-fluid / transsexual men, in my neighbourhood?
or is it, rather, that these are the same individuals who continually / perpetually make new accounts, in an attempt to block evade?
perhaps, it's a combination of both?

though, i don't quite apprehend what one wishes to accomplish, via the 𝘣𝘭𝘰𝘤𝘬 𝘦𝘷𝘢𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 tactic—
—doing this won't make you "seen" or "visible" to those of us who are only interested in other 𝒎𝒂𝒔𝒄𝒖𝒍𝒊𝒏𝒆 / 𝒎𝒂𝒔𝒄𝒖𝒍𝒊𝒏𝒆-𝒂𝒑𝒑𝒆𝒂𝒓𝒊𝒏𝒈, 𝚌𝚒𝚜- / 𝚝𝚛𝚊𝚗𝚜-𝚖𝚎𝚗, on what originally was an app designed for men
(yes: including my femme brethren)

persistent block evading will have the 𝚘𝚙𝚙𝚘𝚜𝚒𝚝𝚎 intended effect, on those of us whose attentions you're so insistent upon garnering

i get annoyed by this when i observe 𝒐𝒓𝒅𝒊𝒏𝒂𝒓𝒚 cis-men showing back up on my grid over and over, after i'd already eliminated them 2, 3, 4, even 6 - 11 times prior

If I'm not attracted to you, I'm not attracted to you.

(Periodt.)

• Especially, not when you do nothing to change who / what you are from the last time I nixxed you.
• Not when it's painfully obvious from your pictures, you are not "together" in your head.
• Or, if you're some vain peacock who gives off the impression you expect the world to cater to your every whim, while you personally offer nothing of worth in return.
• Or, whenever you can't take a respectfully-stated, tactful-but-direct rejection, the first time.

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https://www.diffen.com/difference/Transgender_vs_Transsexual

an interesting read, for those who may be interested in learning more

I couldn't agree more with Matthew. 💖🌈

Tj that tagline was only added recently in fact if you search for say a trans app grindr is on the bottom of the list why because it's not really for them especially women just claiming it so they can just as easily remove it without advertising the fact I doubt many would notice as once download you dont go back to the play store page unless your installing afresh or onto a new device. Many of us older users joined the app before that woke straight couple took over and decided to change the app ie fixing something that wasn't broke but now it is so PUT IT BACK MAKE GRINDR GAY AGAIN and remove all them vile women look at the up votes asking for this and all the other threads asking the same thing but in a different format it's what the core user base wants and expects why is it the only app ment for gay men is being forced to change not the ones for lesbians nor the ones for actual transgender people or even bumble a straight app as a gay man i can tell you we are not welcome on them apps infact bumble and some others will not even let a gay man message others reserving that privilege for women only

So why must we let them infest our space

I really have to agree with the proposal to make Grindr gay again, and yet it's quite apparent that Grindr has painted itself into a corner because of the tagline "The world's leading social network for gay, bi, trans, and queer people." If Grindr back pedals on that tagline they will have the wrath of every organization, group and sub-group in our community come down on them like a hot fireman on his firepole... Doesn't that conjure up an image ... Anyway, as to not have to exclude anyone from our ever-expanding community, let the members do the excluding through filters as suggested earlier. That way everyone is still happy to be on the site getting blocked and badmouthed by every 22 year old punk logged in, and yet we all will be on the hunt for Mr. right or Mr. Right now in our own separate lanes... so to speak. Filters are definitely the best compromise and way to go. I know that I for one am a bit tired of seeing the word "gurl."

I have to agree with Wayne! 🌈

I am cancelling my grindr account at the end of the month. Too many "no shows", in addition to the problem with non gay people being on the site. I went to GROWLR.

I agree. Get the non LGBTQ folks OFF of this site.

They added that BS quite recently that never used to be there as it was always for men to meet men for "dates" no matter if they are gay bi or trans the main requirement was you be male then all this woke us started and the inclusion brigade showed up along with straight new owners now all of a sudden its being overrun with women

at the end of the day, the problem really lay with grindR:
grindR — which, on its storefront page, makes the claim, "The world's leading social network for gay, bi, trans, and queer people."

okay.
cool.

that, alone, tells you everything you need to know about the situation

it *would* be nice, if grindR were to allow filtering, so we gays don't have to deal with (or see) the "straight" men, or "women" on our grid; so that, the bi-sexuals can go bugger off and hang out with the "women," whenever their moods change

so that, the constant bitching and moaning which we-all do may, once and for all, finally cease, so we can get on with our lives and enjoy the app the way we'd like

it would also be nice, if you people didn't play any games with the Gender / Sex questions, and actually answer what's asked for honestly and accurately, so that the faction filtering may function at its maximum efficacy

but, i have to try driving this point home once more..
..for all the arguing and bickering you guys do on here (and elsewhere), this one point seems lost on the vast majority: grindR is **not** interested in listening to you

the only things the c-suites of grindR understand, are these:
• their own pain and suffering
• their own deaths (hopefully, due to a consequence of their Business Decisions)
• the near, or complete, loss of their money due to a sufficient number of people boycotting their product

and even under these circumstances, those priggards don't normally learn the lesson we'd hope they'd grasp, from what happens when the customers they screw over get fed up and revolt

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the most common sense thing to do, is to provide separate spaces so that there may, finally, be a modicum of peace

all the money which grindR (unfortunately) makes, i **know** they can do it

grindR won't

even if grindR did let us filter by gender / sex, grindR will only paywall it off.. ..thereby resolving nothing but, if anything, introducing yet another element of classism into our lives

so
what to do?

I totally support these issues, especially I'm openly Gay and non-binary and I'm being discriminated by these straight people and trans when they saw me outside. There has to be a category for each individual because the straight men are conquering the whole platform. Right bitchesss!

Who said anything about bisexuals? The issue is trans and their "Str8" chasers on here. Drop the T! Gay is a sexuality, not a gender identity. Grindr, stop shoving your political agenda down our throats.

Good God you are all phobic as hell. This app is also for bisexual men and not just gay men. Pathetic.

Please do something about this, soo many profiles featuring straight guys and cuckold couples what is wrong with Grindr , why aren't you taking any action, this is irritating as hell. I'm tired of getting straight guy profiles

I invite all of you who want this to cancel any payment to grindr until they remove all the women they obviously don't care about gay men anymore so let's hit them where it hurts the wallet perhaps once there profits start to drop they may finally listen there are apps for women who want to pretend to be a gay Male make them use them it's not like trans apps don't exist

I get annoyed with the straight men looking for Trans and will say “no men”! Seriously, stay off of gay apps and use Trans Apps and you won’t need to worry about it “straight” man it’s a gay app. And peole say trans are part of the lgbtq community. Yes they are and they straight men looking for them are not. Use the Trans Apps! Lesbians are part of the lgbtq community but they aren’t on Grindr.

If anyone from Grindr is reading these comments, I've cancelled my subscription until this is addressed. The site (or at least my immediate area) is flooded with women and ad bots claiming to be women, and there's no way to filter them out even by paying for enhanced filtering. Gender isn't included as a possible filter, which was not a problem originally when the app was aimed at and used by gay and bi men. You can't even solve the problem with blocking, because there is a secret limit on the number of lifetime blocks for each account. Tech support says I've hit the limit and cannot block any more. As a result, the app is unusable. Please fix this situation.