@Zari, just because someone doesn't fully agree with you doesn't mean they suddenly have a phobia. Are you going to say I'm sexist against women because I'm gay? Are you going to say I suddenly have a phobia against women because I'm gay? No because that's a sexual preference. I can be friends with women. I can be friends with trans people - I actually have quite a few of them. Funny thing is they all agree that trans people should have their own site/app and place. It's usually people, like I'd assume you are, that aren't trans who keep coming out calling everyone "transphobic" because they don't agree with your idiotic movements.

I've never heard of Fiorry, but Tinder and Facebook dating aren't designed for trans people. They're both just all encompassing dating apps. Grindr is literally an app for ONLY gay men. That's how it started and that's what it's always been geared towards. Recently though women, straight people, and now trans people have started creating accounts and acting like they should be catered to. Would you go into a Starbucks and demand McDonalds? No, but that's what you people are doing to Grindr.

The funny thing here too is you even say that "trans is an identity".. yet you people make it into a sexuality by saying you won't say if you're actually trans or not. Like the last person I replied to saying they will not say they're a trans man now just man. That's not an identity, that's quite literally false advertisement because you're saying you are something you completely aren't. A trans man is not a man they are a trans man. That's not "transphobia" that's just the complete scientific truth that you morons are too stupid to accept but tell everyone else to grow up.

Genetalia does determine sex.. a female does not have a penis nor the ability to produce sperm. A female instead produces eggs. You can say you're a "trans man" that doesn't suddenly mean you produce sperm.. you literally will never be able to no matter what you do because your body doesn't have that genetic makeup to be capable of it.

As for your whole thing about "intersex people" they're literally a mutation and not typical whatsoever. It's an extremely rare occurrence that can happen in quite a few species. That doesn't mean they suddenly are the definition of something because of a mutation. Are people with down syndrome the norm? No.. they're again a mutation that causes them to be different.

Your other asinine example is women born without a uterus.. once again they're a rare occurrence and it's again a mutation that caused it. They're not typical and yes a woman without a uterus isn't a woman by typical definition. Before you try some other idiotic crap, look at the actual definition of female: "of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes." That's flat out science and definition.. you don't get to just break that and change that because you say so.

None of this is "transphobia" or sexist. It's just pure fact and science that you refuse to accept because you're too stupid or too young. You'd instead like to just keep fighting to be that "unique butterfly" because you need drama and attention in your life.

Funny thing is you try to say "you can state your opinion" but then go on about how "wrong" my opinion is and act like your opinion is entirely correct. Meanwhile everything you fight against isn't an opinion it's just cold hard fact and science.

As for your idiotic "Science is always changing" thing, while that's true, it doesn't mean suddenly you get to wake up one day like "SUDDENLY SCIENCE IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BECAUSE I SAY SO!!"... there's literally no scientific data to back up anything you say. If anything, there's only data AGAINST what you say.. but you don't like that so you'll just ignore it and act like it doesn't exist.

In the end, trans people should have their own section, app, and/or dating site. It'll give them a place to be themselves and find people that are actually attracted to them rather than forcing an entire section of people that'll never be attracted to it. If you're a "trans man" I will NEVER be attracted to you.. I'm a gay man you don't have what I want. You can keep idiotically calling it "transphobia" all you want but I won't suddenly be like "OH.. SUDDENLY I'M ATTRACTED TO YOU!!" Stop trying to gaslight people into accepting you and being attracted to you and actually make good arguments. Just be yourself in your own place and eventually you'll find someone.

@Eventide Yikes !!! you thought you ate that ??? your transphobia is showing . You can state your opinion without trying to dehumanize a group that already faces systemic oppression.

Trans ppl do deserve their own spaces and they have apps for that (Fiorry, Tinder, even Facebook Dating) However most trans women STARTED on grindr just like most gay men bc it was literally all we had!!!! Most of these new apps are just now converting to a more inclusive platform for trans people.

Also you do understand that being trans is an identity not a sexual orientation.. Therefore intersectionality exists you can be trans and bi, trans and straight, trans and gay, ect so when you say “Gay as in homosexual male” it really doesnt give.

“If you're a "trans man" you're not a man. You don't have a penis, testes, or anything that genetically makes you a man.”

yeah its giving transphobia.. genes and chromosomes do determine sex however genitalia DOES NOT . intersex people (which may fall under the trans umbrella) can have both vagina and testes and be assigned male at birth . or they may have a penis and ovaries it can vary on a spectrum just like sexual orientation. Everything is not black and white. You sound like the people who say trans women arent real women bc they cant bleed and have kids but then that would mean women born without a uterus or have PCOS are “not real women” too ? right because genitalia does not determine sex or gender . literally chromosomes are the only thing that does . Ever heard that we all start off as female embryo then are sex determined 6 weeks after by just the switch of one gonad . Science is fun because its always changing.

Anyway as i said before you can state your opinions without being transphobic. Which i know is tough because 99% of the world has internalized transphobia (including trans people) its just the way it is . Peace

Yes, This needs to happen now! I been so fustrated ! With trans replying to me as if I would ever be interested! It's just like a straight women replying to me a gay guy! I have no interest! I am gay ! I only want gay men. I don't have anything against trans people! But it's not fair to share the site designed for Gay men! The are just like straight replying to gays it's actually not right or fair to me. I talk with many who agree and feel as I do! That why they should have there own category that gives them there own space for people who have those interest! It really disgusted me to see female appearing on Grindr! I will never be interested in any type of female Iam Gay!

@Lynx So I see you're one of "those" that acts like everything's suddenly "fetishized".. trans people deserve to have their own space. Grindr is meant to be a GAY DATING APP.. in case you can't read, that says GAY as in homosexual and male. There are apps specifically for gay, straight, christian, asian, etc.. yet the moment someone says have a space for trans you people pop up like "THAT'S NOT RIGHT! THAT'S FETISHIZING!"

If you're a "trans man" you're not a man. You don't have a penis, testes, or anything that genetically makes you a man. You may butcher your body and force it to look one particular way, but you still are lacking the equipment. It'd be like me saying I want a burger, go to a restaurant and order one, then they give me a veggie burger instead. What I wanted was meat not plants..

As for "stop putting your insecurities on us" who at any point did that? All that has been said is that trans people should have their own section or app. You are NOT a man. You are NOT gay. You're not what the vast majority of people on Grindr are looking for. Yet you try to act like we absolutely have to be attracted to you. Suddenly because you randomly say so you're a "man" and everyone needs to accept you as one, be attracted to you as one, etc. That's not us putting our insecurities on you.. that's you forcing everyone else to be a particular way.

You also say to "mind your own business"... then again why are you forcing your way into an app that's not made for you whatsoever and forcing everyone to accept you? Why wouldn't you just prefer to have a place literally designed for you and people that are attracted to you? I'm a gay man that wants gay men so you don't see me going to ChristianMingle.com and signing up forcing everyone to accept me for what I am and acting like if they don't suddenly that's "fetishizing" me...

You need to grow up and shut up. Learn that all you have done is butcher your body (if you've even gone that far) and literally tried to defy science all because you said so because you need to be some special "unique" butterfly because you feel that's the only way you'll get the attention you never got as a child.

No. We don't want to be fetishized or chased just because we're trans. There's a lot of transphobia in these comments. Being transgender is a private matter between me and the person it's necessary to convey to deeming the situation. It's not a matter of politics. I will no longer be putting on my profile "trans man" after seeing this. I am just a man. That's it. Cis men need to grow up and stfu. Stop putting your insecurities on us. You're so sensitive it's ridiculous. Just mind your own business and don't come into ours.

Unsure if this is prevalent to other areas or just mine but is actually kind of homophobic even though it is trans positive. It is becoming inflated with hetero presenting profiles that make searching very limited. Its also renewing the toxic masculinity culture that I thought we were all passed.
One could make the connection that cd profile pics are inappropriate because they only cross dress (often wearing lingerie) for sex. This is the drawback for the platform becoming gender inclusive. I am pro trans lives but I'm not for false-gender exploitation to satisfy str8s wanting to get off. Out of 22, 3 out of seven m4m do not identify as gay or bi and the remaining 15 give way for fem/ passable/ transonly preferences that pass through for sex only as a standard for gay sex

Most of these comments is coming from a place of jealousy and hurt feelings. Y’all CIS gay men kill me. If guys com on here for trans woman let them it’s not hurting you. Not everyone will want you deal with it. I have. Need I remind most of y’all about how you got your rights today. A black trans woman. I rest my case.

I agree with Arther. I’m a transman and being told I can’t go on a cite because I wasn’t born a cis male will never fly. I would sue the fuck out this app before I have anyone take away my rights as a human. Times are changing. You either keep up or get left in the dust.

"Cas commented · January 12, 2021 1:46 PM · Flag as inappropriate
I really hate this idea. I already hate that chasers use the 'trans' tribe to seek out trans people. This would only encourage chasers to think its okay to fetishize(?) trans people."

I'm missing something, wasn't grindr a dating app? shouldn't people look for what they're looking for? or probably Cas thinks that a man fancy trans should refrain to look for them and force himself to date a hairy butch manly man? Can we also please stop using this ideological construct of fetishisation in this manner as it makes no sense?

JeepBear74 this is a gay DATING application not a political manifesto. No user has to "CHANGE" their sexual preferences and desires. GRINDR HAS TO CHANGE TO CATER TO HIS USERS. We shouldn't be the product of a social engineering project. The product is Grindr and the service is helping us to FILTER OUT ANYONE we are not interested in order to find THE MATCH. This are the FACTS. Anything else is STUPID WOKE RADICAL LEFT WING IDEOLOGY emanating from far away in California. And put back that bloody ethnic filter if you want to see my money ever again!

This really discourages me from continuing to pay for use of this app. I’m not paying for unlimited and xtra doesn’t offer enough profiles considering the amount that are for trans and ‘straight males’ looking for trans. I’m a gay male, looking for other gay males and paying for a service. Unlimited is way too much. Should created a separate platform or figure out a way to help filter
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Eso es transfobia respeta soy hombre gay pero respeta los son de nuestra comunidad no me. Gustan pero los respeto todos tenemos los mismos derechos ante la defensoria del pueblo tu el ella yo uds vosotros

I agree with users asking for filters rather than another profile. As a transmasc person, it’s perfectly reasonable to assume that some gay men will be interested in me. I would prefer not to be filtered out completely and put on a different platform that would be rife with fetishization…more so than the trans filter already is.

Please do it, here in the UK it's literally 50:50...give them their own space. Grindr is not for gays anymore... I dont judge anyone, live and let live but this issue we t too far..sometimes it's like collection of mental health here🤦‍♂️

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Add this!

I am more attracted to trans men so, I would welcome a feature where you can choose what kind of person you are attracted to rather than lumping all non-binary people together under one category

Only not o my lol

In order to cut out time wasting there should be specific sections for types. So ppl who want trans have a trans/seeking trans section.
Men who want bi have bi section.
I am o my interested in cis men so it wud be helpful to have a cis man only section. Not to discriminate but it just a preference and it would be nice to have the option to only see what you are after

Show only cis men. That's men who are born as men and identify as men. It would make life easier if we had filters for this

So not to sound transphobic bit it would make life easier on here if there was sections or even rooms for trans and ppl interested in just trans, rooms for men interested in just men and then a random room, like Grindr is now. That way no one's time is wasted and all are welcome